Batman VS Superman

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  • jason patino

    I think batman would win because he has the skills,the brains and the will,granted superman has many fie qualities but without his poers you clearly see he is like a fish out of water batman has been broken alot but it only shows that he is even more deadly because his skills dont define him his will does.

  • NightmareBaty

    I love Batman, I believe in him in every single way. Just like most mentioned, Batman only wins because he is extremely smart, and is always one step ahead of Superman, He is psychically stronger than any human-being, and mentally as well. c: I love him, and look up to him, but even I have to say that Superman would just naturally win. Superman is just un-human strong. Batman got stronger than a human could get, but that still isn’t enough for someone who has more strength than mankind. ^_^ I love you batty though! :D

  • Alex Garcia

    BATMAN IS BETTER than superman and SCREW BEN AFLACK… Nobody wants you to be batman… Go find a better actor

  • John

    Wonder Woman has beaten up Batman before. I bet Bat-fans logic, that makes her the best, right?

    Oh, no?

    Anyway, of course Superman would win. He’d only have to sneeze and Bat mans head would come flying off. Batman is still cool though, but – let’s be realistic, he’s not in Supermans league – hence Batman has already admitted Superman could kill him, if he wanted to, that is. But Superman doesn’t.

    But he could .

  • Zone_Ender

    The thing most people typically don’t acknowledge is the
    inequality in preparation or technology… it’s almost always a contrived circumstance to bring about a Bat-victory by the skin of Bruce’s teeth. Even if they do, they put their faith in Batman’s preparation and planning (and sometimes technology) to rule the day. The following addresses that:

    Despite the incredibly persistent and wide-spread belief that Batman has a dozen plans up his sleeve to take out Superman, historically it’s been proven otherwise again and again. Let’s take some examples:

    DKR – Bats, after 20 years of planning, gets his ribs broke, his fancy suit torn to shreds, suffers a heart attack, and ends up in the ground. His entire plan relies on Superman holding back and NOT simply unplugging Bruce from his lamp-post or disabling him from space (if Supes really just wanted Bruce to turn himself in, rather than getting into a dangerous fist fight)… in other words, poor writing for Supes (out of character motivation, out of character intellect/tactics), who could have undid the Bat’s plan easily.

    Hush – Bats breaks his hand & resorts to thug-level hostage tactics, while admiting he doesn’t stand a chance. Honestly, he just gets in one good punch (that breaks his hand) shortly after, Supes smashes through the street and effortlessly lifts a car in each hand, no worse for wear. His plan needlessly puts himself at risk and relied entirely on Clark holding back/being good, which he had no logical grounds on which the make that assumption… having a “gut feeling” that Clark can resist mind control does not constitute a good plan.

    Red Son – Dies. Despite all his prep, he didn’t account for Superman’s allies, which he has in spades and certainly on a different power-level than- say- the Bat Family. If anything is true of Supes, it’s that he has many friends that would readily risk life and limb for his sake- heck, in the regular universe, Batman considers himself one of that number… any plan meant to take Supes out has to take into account his allies, friends, family, robots, pets, etc.

    Babel – Years of planning on how to stop a rogue Superman… result: an expensive synthetic rock that makes Superman MORE powerful (and doesn’t even prevent him from using his powers with surgical precision). Wow. Brilliant.

    Superman/Batman #2 – Owned. This is in Batman’s home turf, the ideal situation to combat Superman and to enact all the theoretical plans his fans have long believed he has against a rogue Superman… but the result? Bruce isn’t even Future Supes’s target yet he’s a breath away from death if not for a save from present-day Supes.

    Lex Luthor:Man of Steel – Batman with kryptonite and prep, defeated handily by Superman. Arguably one of the most realistic portrayals of how Supes could still defeat Batman without instantly killing him regardless of Bat-prep.

    Superman: King of The World – Batman with prep and kryptonite fails to stop Superman from being able to crush his throat… only with the intervention of Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter is Supes stopped. Here we see danger of Superman with limited prep, the legions of his similarly powered Superman robots.

    Sacrifice – Again, Batman, king of protocols, the man entrusted with the Kryptonite ring as a symbol of trust and the express responsibility of stopping Superman should he go rogue by Superman himself… finds himself in said situation and instead of pulling out “always prepared anti-Supes plan” finds himself beaten to near death saved only by the Plot Gods.

    Infinite Crisis – After the last beating, you’d think Batman would create more comprehensive plans for taking out Superman and/or Superman-class enemies. Granted Kal-L is probably levels above them, but in terms of Anti-Super Brick Planning, once again, Bruce fails… his entire defense the Kryptonite ring. Even if it were Kal-El and not Kal-L, it’s highly questionable whether the ring alone would have been able to stop a motivated rogue Superman considering Supes has wielded the ring himself when fighting other Super-persons. If Batman were truly the master of planning and prep, this certainly should have been taken into consideration.

    Final score: Bat Plans Zip; Supes nine of nine.

    The only cases where Batman has been able to possibly get a leg up on Supes are when he has acted like a villain and held hostages or lead an assault against an unsuspecting Supes- hardly a feat (consider: who amongst us, with Batman’s fortune and training, intimate knowledge of Superman as an ally, and even express consent from said target, WOULDN’T be able to come up with an attack plan against an unsuspecting Supes?). In any case where Supes has had the opportunity to fight back he has either won or been defeated by bad writing.

  • dude101

    even so, way before batman made a strategy, we’d be dead

  • Batman 2313

    Dude it is the dark night as he has the cryptonian armor which even lazer cannot break

  • The dark knight

    I ROCK!!!!!!

  • Amanda

    Think about it.. Unhumanly strong, mutipowered man that’s pretty much undefetible, superhero, vs a powerless man dressed as a bat. Which do yo think will win? Sure batman is always prepared but he could NEVER win in a fight against superman. As much as I hate to admit it batman is powerless and pretty much just a normal man that’s dressed in a bat suit. The only thing that could weaken superman is kyrtonite and it’s almost inpossible to get so, even if you like batman more, face the facts. Superman would win.

  • Ella

    Why would they even need to fight? Your are both Heros deal with it!!!

  • Killer

    Superman is a f#$@ing god humanly speaking hell he can beat Greek gods if he wanted to and have done before, batman is just a human with great intellect superman has a wait for it super brain, he can process any info in seconds so how the hell is a man in a batsuit gonna beat a god and superman hads beaten batman in canon before batman has never beaten supes in canon so dark knight returns doesn’t count.

  • rogue kira

    “Two points: Batman has never, and I do mean never, beaten Superman in canon content. Even with prep, his chances of beating Superman are not exactly ideal. To that end, I’ve compiled a list of all their encounters in both canon and non canon material. I’m pretty sure this is every fight they’ve ever had, but there might be one or two that I missed. This is mainly so people can shut up about Batgod beating Superman or Superman being a loser because Batman has supposedly beaten him based on one or two out of context scans they’ve seen floating around on the internet.
    Note: I am not doing this because I hate Batman. Far from it, I love Batman. Nor am I doing this to uphold Superman’s honor or anything that pointless, anyone with common sense should know that Batman isn’t beating Superman anytime soon. This is just to put all the facts out in the open.
    Post-Crisis skirmishes between Superman and Batman:
    Batman #428
    Batman’s trying to bring the Joker to justice for beating Jason to death and blowing him and his mother up, but Joker was conferred diplomatic immunity by Iran (don’t ask), so Superman’s telling him to calm down since there’s nothing he can do. Batman gets angry, and…
    End result: Batman punches Superman and is saved from being Oracle before Oracle because Superman rolled with the punch. Advantage Kal-El.
    The Dark Knight Returns (non canon)
    The Superman of the TDKR universe is considerably weaker than the New Earth version (he was almost killed by a nuke). A fight where Superman is holding back considerably, exposed to kryptonite courtesy of Green Arrow, and more concerned about Batman’s health than his own, ends with Superman holding Batman’s body after he suffers a near fatal heart attack.
    End result: Note how Batman claims that he’s “the one man who beat you”. Batman can claim whatever he wants. Even with one-sided prep and backup, the fight didn’t end with him holding Superman’s seemingly dead body, did it? Advantage Kal-El.
    JLA #44
    The infamous Tower of Babel incident, where Ra’s al Ghul steals Batman’s contingency plans for bringing down the JLA and employs them against the various members. Turns out Batman’s plan for taking down a rogue Superman was a specially engineered form of red kryptonite that wreaked havoc with Superman’s ability to metabolize sunlight.
    End result: This is probably the only canon incident that could be used to claim any kind of win for Batman over Superman. And it’s not even a direct encounter. A lot of people claim that since Ra’s could easily pull this off, Batman should also be able to. Couple of points regarding that:
    Ra’s has resources that dwarf Batman’s. In The Resurrection of Ra’s al Ghul he told Tim Drake that comparing the Wayne fortune to his own wealth would be akin to comparing a drop of water to the ocean or something along those lines. He also has an army at his beck and call that he can deploy to achieve his desired effect. It would be much easier for Ra’s to do something like this than it would be for Batman.
    Batman is a member of the League, and thus under constant scrutiny from the people he’s plotting against. Ra’s operates in the shadows, he does not have to worry about Superman finding out about what he’s up to. Especially since he’s not even a League villain.
    I guess if you stretch a little, Batman is potentially capable of this. Very well, advantage Batman.
    The Dark Knight Strikes Again (non canon)
    That image of Batman punching Superman in The Dark Knight Returns is spammed mercilessly on the battle forums despite the fact that Batman didn’t even win. He actually fought Superman and won in the sequel to TDKR. This example isn’t as well known as TDKR because TDKSA sucks the big one. Seriously, it is unbelievably bad. But anyway:
    End result: With the help of the Flash, the Atom, Green Arrow and years of prep, Batman manages to defeat Superman in a direct encounter. Even though Superman just wanted to talk. Still, this is the only instance of Batman ever beating Superman in any published content, but it’s not canon.
    Batman #612
    Probably the most famous fight between the two. Or given that the only image from this fight that ever sees the light of day is the one where Batman punches Superman, it’s probably the most famous fight between the two that no one bothers actually reading before posting “LOL SUPERMAN GOT PUNCHED OUT BY BATMAN, SO HULK SMASH PUNY KRYPTONIAN”.
    End result: First and foremost, this was written by Jeph Loeb. 90% of the things Jeph Loeb writes require a liberal suspension of disbelief, even for comics. He thinks a tiny piece of kryptonite stuck in a ring is enough to lower Superman’s durability to the point where Batman can make him bleed. Why Superman even gave Batman that ring, I’ll never be able to figure out. If he ever actually went rogue, a kryptonite ring is not going to stop him from simply nuking Bruce with his heat vision. But ok, I’ll play along. Note three things: that Batman himself says that if Superman wanted he could kill him with superspeed, that Batman himself says that if he continually punches Superman every bone in his hand will shatter, and that Batman himself says that Superman is holding back as much as he can while fighting Ivy’s control. Even so, after hitting Kal with all the electricity in Metropolis, the battle still comes down to Catwoman putting Lois in danger, forcing Superman to break Ivy’s control and save her instead of beating Batman to death with a car. Look at that scan. If Catwoman had been a few seconds late, Superman would have brought a car weighing several tons down on Bruce’s head, and exactly what could he possibly do about that? Advantage Kal-El.
    Superman: Red Son (non canon)
    Another Elseworlds story (and a really good one at that). If you haven’t read this, you should.
    End result: Batman tying up Wonder Woman is ludicrous in itself, which is probably why it happens off-panel. Batman’s prep in this situation isn’t really his own, the idea of red solar lamps came from Lex Luthor. Batman just provided the venue. Anyway, he defeats a powerless Superman until Wonder Woman summons all her strength to snap the lasso and eliminate the lamps, restoring Superman to full power. Faced with Superman who actually has his powers, Batman quickly decides that suicide via explosion is the most prudent option available to him. Advantage Kal-El.
    Superman/Batman #2
    The first of a series of fights between the two in this series. Here Superman and Batman fight an alternate future version of Superman. I’ve included this because technically, it’s still Superman vs Batman in canon content.
    End result: Evil Supes backhands Batman and is about to throw a car at him, something Bruce a) cannot do anything about, and b) cannot survive. He runs out of time before that happens and fades away to his own timeline. Advantage evil Kal-El.
    Adventures of Superman #642
    Superman is mind-controlled by Max Lord and placed in an illusion where he thinks he’s fighting Darkseid (he says it’s Ruin, but that might simply be an error), but in reality he’s fighting Batman. He’s enraged because he saw Darkseid kill Lois in the illusion, so he’s taking it out on Batman.
    End result: While fighting off the Watchtower’s defenses, Superman nearly murders Batman, who is saved by the intervention of Wonder Woman. Advantage Kal-El. Duh.
    Superman/Batman #23
    Bats is possessed by the Kryptonite Man. That’s right. He’s literally glowing with kryptonite.
    End result: While literally glowing with kryptonite, Batman still loses to Superman. Advantage Kal-El.
    Superman/Batman #33
    Here Batman was under the control of an alien life form called the Blackrock. He had super powers. Legit super powers!
    End result: With legit superpowers, Superman still beat him so hard the Blackrock got scared and abandoned him. Advantage Kal-El.
    Justice League #2
    This fight is the first face-to-face encounter between Superman and Batman post-Flashpoint. I’ve only included the Batman stuff since the rest of the fight is mostly GL and Flash, so it’s irrelevant.
    End result: Batman throws literally everything he has at Superman and it doesn’t do squat. Who do you think has the advantage here?
    Batman: The Dark Knight #5
    This is their most recent fight, and already the single image of Batman punching Superman is circulating everywhere as if that’s what the fight actually was. Batman is on Bane’s new Venom, and with it he somehow hits Superman hard enough to make him bleed. That in itself is PIS, mainly because if this new Venom amps your strength to the point where you can hurt a Kryptonian, then Batman should have been splattered across the wall when Clayface and Bane hit him while they were on the drug. Towards the end of the fight, Batman starts channeling Frank Miller, so Superman goes like:
    End result: Even with the PIS strength and durability increase, Superman still wins with one punch. Advantage Kal-El.
    So there you have it. The only instance of Superman ever losing to Batman in a direct encounter is a non canon incident where Batman had years of prep and three other heroes helping him. In canon content, Batman’s had all kinds of amps and still lost to Superman every time.
    Am I saying it’s impossible for Batman to ever beat Superman, no matter what the circumstances are? No. I’m just saying it’s extremely unlikely. Odds are that in 99% of their encounters, there’s only going to be one real outcome.”

  • seriously?

    Eveyone keeps saying Kryptonite would be a factor in the fight… NO, no it wouldn’t. All superman would need to do is fly up into space, use his super vision and find batman, then throw a large meteor in his general vicinity and bam. No more bat.

Ah, the two mainstays of DC comics and, of course, the most iconic superheros in the world. Arguably, Superman would win the battle in hand-to-hand combat, if for no other reason then he can kill Batman from orbit with his eyes, we’re more interested in who kicks the most ass. Who would you rather be? Superman embodies the All American persona, a more polished mama’s boy with unwavering values and morals while Batman is not only the most cunning detective on the planet, but he’s also one of the most intelligent people to walk the Earth. He’s honed his body to the peak of human perfection… plus he’s straight-up bad ass. Not afraid to bend his idealogy to get the job done and capable of doing real, scary damage.

Blue jumpsuits are just not our thing. Bats in black are where it’s at. Gotta say Batman all the way here. I suppose if a good superman movie were to come out this decade that could change things, but for right now Bats takes it. P.S. Who exactly is Brandon Routh?

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