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Star Trek VS Star Wars

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  • Republic General

    And another thing, just because it isn’t plausible here, doesn’t make it unrealistic.

  • sheilasman

    How dumb.star trek would obliterate star wars in a war.enough said.period.

  • Joshinator

    Self-explanatory, Star Trek merely copied Star Wars with different stuff, but their plot lines sucked butt compared to Star Wars, the tragedy of “I am your father”, the romance between Han Solo and Leia, then Anakin and Padme, the great Jedi dying (Qui-Gonn and Mace) or exile (Obi-Wan and Yoda), double-betrayal (Anakin turns on Jedi, then turns on the Emperor to save his son)

    • http://www.facebook.com/not0fthiswor1d James Dowden

      Star Trek was ON TELEVISION over 10 Years Before Star Wars. Star Wars Copied Star Trek.

    • joe

      you sir are an idiot. do some mild research

      star trek: 1966
      star wars:1977

    • pfannk

      hahahaha

  • Anonymous

    First off, all Star Wars ships have minimal shielding, therefore the borg could just beam on and assimilate a bunch of people, and yes, they can adapt to lightsabers because each drone has shielding. Also, LASERS are primitive in Star Trek. The Federation ships could just beam photon and quantum torpedoes onto the Star Wars ships and blow them up. And remember: with their polarized hull plating, even the Enterprise NX-01 which did not have shields could withstand the impact, explosions and radiation of 3 10,000 lb. nuclear warheads. Plus it would take a Star Wars ship about 4.43126 years to get from Earth to the closest star system, Alpha Centauri. Transphasic torpedoes would smash even the Death Star into oblivion. Also, the Okampa have telekinetic powers. Species 8472 has planet destroying capabilities, like the Death Star but more powerful.

  • starwars fan

    in the star wars books there are tons of super weapons there are actually a lot of death stars but that’s a weaker super weapon, for example the suncrusher small nearly undetectable and can annihilate an entire solar system plus star wars has hundreds of other ultimate weapons and the people of star wars have been in space for 20,000 years so obviously have far superior technology there shields in star wars are very very strong for example the shield on Hoth was able to withstand orbital bombardment and it could not have been very expensive because a bunch of moisture farmers bought it! Plus Borg can not adapt to the force, also I suggest u fans look up suncrusher on http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sun_Crusher.

    • joe

      first off q could end all life and no sun crusher or anything else could stop him. secondly star wars dose not have better tech. their ships don’t have sheilds, they don’t have cloak devices. Lastly the borg would would assimilate the jedi and be able to use their powers against them.

  • Le Me

    Why Star Wars would lose:

  • phaser to the head

    Hi i love star wars but the thing is i love star trek even more. Star wars is flashy because it is all a bunch of movies but when you compare the stats everything star wars has star trek had a better vesion 200 years ago star trek time.plus we have the Q snap you never existed

  • Ex-starwars fan

    Its difficult to compare the destructive capablities of either universe due to the uncertainty of what kind of effectivness starwars ships have against star trek vessels. In either case star trek has Q. No argument can change the fact that the Q can end all ilfe everywhere with a simple snap of their fingers. Minus all of startrek’s goverments and technology. Negate the entire universe except for the Q and well. The Q would win. Nothing in the Starwars universe could prepare them for the Q and there is no defense against them. In the great words of Dr. Manhatten “the worlds smartest man is no more a threat to me than its smartest termite.”

    Having said that if you remove the Q from the discussion than you’d have to recognize the effectivness of Startrek’s military force. The federation estimated a loss of 900 billion lives before they would lose a war with the dominion. 900 billion people. Just in the federation. What about the Klingons, Romulans, cardassians, Breen, or Bajoran. All of these races excludeing the Breen and Bajoran fought the dominon which was assumed to have far superior forces.
    Superior forces more than a force with 900 billion soilders. Thats insane. Thats ridiculious. Now do you really believe that their are 900 billion rebles laying around? Maybe stormtroopers but even than they would have to deal with the Jem hadar. Which are basically unstoppable genetically engineered super soilders with only one function and thats to kill. Forget the borg, think about how the entire Alpha quadrant had to band together just for a slim chance to survive the dominion. The Jem hadar can be cloned just like stormtroopers and mass produced. Infact if the wormhole on deep space nine hadnt been mined and than protected by the prophets of Ba’jor the alpha quadrant would have fallen easily. Not because they were not a force to be reckoned with but rather becasue the Dominion are so vast and powerful.

    Now you can think of the borg. Which basically trumpts everything above (except Q). The borg will never have a manpower shortage because they’re entire population is dedicated to assimilation. So both, they will grow by fighting you and the fact that every man, woman, and child on their side is against you. That can’t be said for any other race except for zombies. Which basically the borg are only their highly intelliegent.

    Than there’s species 8472 which are very powerful but arn’t as impressive as the list above. They seen to only be a trump card on the borg because the borg can’t adapt to their genetics or some crap like that. I dunno I always found voyager to be a shit tv show and the threat of these giant bug looking teleopathic freakshows has never really given me rise to concern. Considering the crew of voyager figured out how to kill them in like a week its kinda hard to be afraid of them. I mean jesus that whole crew accepts Nelix for christ sake. Anywho for you starwars fans even species 8472 has an army that would make the stormtroopers shit in their pants. They live in fluidic space which apparently is the same size and mass as the milky way which basically means they inhabit an entire galaxy just to themselves. Thats a huge amount of soilders ready to fight.

    But all of this comes down to how effective can phasers and torpedos be agaisnt deflector sheilds. Personally I believe the star trek universe to be much more technologically advance based on the warp factor, transporting ability, defelector arrey and fucking voyager for giving ever stupid technobabble explination in histroy. If Star trek is more technologically advance than thats just another advantage for the trek universe to pounce star wars. If the bow and arrow can change the face of warfare im sure transporting, and faster than light speed travel will also be a huge factor. I’m not exactly sure how fast star wars ships can go but surely they can’t go as fast as warp. Warp being a tenth to the power of lightspeed and expedentially increasing every increase in one numerical value. Hense warp 1 through 9. Or ten and elevan if you forget that stupid voyager episode “Threshold”.

    Now the question of when in time are these two factions battleing because that can change things. I’ve heard a great deal about the sith and jedi screwing our shit up but if you take starwars from the end of the sixth movie, well. You only have Luke. I know later he trains other people in the way of the force and I know a lot of crazy shit happens in the books later on but if your going by what the average person knows. Well than I can’t see starwars winning. But having said all that I dont find this debate to be fair at all anyway. I mean think of how much star trek has over starwars in just basic lore. Starwars has seven films and soon another by J.J abrams (six live action one animated). They have a series of novels to back themselves up and a series of video games which most of which are super freakin awesome. Now think about star trek. Will assume they even out in both video games and novels only because they’re are just far too many on both sides to count. Star trek has eleven films and six televison series. From TOS, TNG, DS9, VOG, ANI, and Enterprize combined they have a total of 30 seasons. Each season having around twenty, forty five minute episodes. Thats just far too much backstory and lore to contend with. It’s just too much material to borrow from and counter any argument star wars might have against star trek.

    Now I know I’ve gotten just a little out of control with content in all this but I just wanted to make myself clear as to why this match up is just totally unfair. It’s like putting superman against Goko, although everyone loves Goko superman is just way too powerful for anyone to take on.

    So until someone can give me an all powerful omnipotent being that exists in the starwars unvierse and a time refrence for when this character exists I can’t see star wars ever even being a threat to star trek.
    Jesus I need a life.

    • Ex-Startrek fan

      Very well Ex-Star wars fan I will concede that the Q are a force far too powerful for any universe. Very likely if both star trek and star wars teamed up to fight the Q they would lose. However excluding the Q from the discussion I think you’ll have to consider further the military might of the Empire.

      Manpower:

      The star wars universe has roughly 1,000,000 star systems and the empire controls a great deal more than half. The man power and equipment required to
      maintain a prize as large as the Empire is far too expansive to even process a clear decisive conclusion as to the number. That said I’d be more than willing
      to assume that the number of soldiers for each side is even in a drawn out war. Both sides having cloning abilities and both sides having the ability to
      brainwash/assimilate enemies into fighting for each other’s sides.

      Point is a draw.

      Technology:

      Because like you said we are unable to ascertain exactly what would occur if a ship from the star wars universe fought a ship from the star trek universe we cannot fully know which side out right wins. However we may be able to bring closure by laying out the amount of strategies each side can deploy. Your remark about the bow and arrow changing strategy gave me the idea to go through each sides
      ship capabilities until one had a little more of a tactical edge.

      Both have cloaking, faster than light travel, various weapons that can have devastating effects, radiation weapons, shields, and weapons capable of destroy star systems/planets.

      However star wars does not have transporters, holographic technology, or the ability to travel
      through time.

      For this reason we can safely say that star trek has many more choices to choose from when in
      combat.

      Point goes to star trek for technology.

      Special tactics:

      The one thing you did over look however was the force. The Q can be removed because there faction
      stands alone from the rest of the universe. They are not truly part of the universe because they see the universe as something to fiddle with. A backyard
      if you will. There plain of existence is the Q continuum. So unlike force users in star wars who are very much involved with the universe and see themselves
      has very much a part of it they can be allowed where the Q can be excluded.

      The Borg, 8472, and dominion are all nifty and what not but none of them could possibly stand
      against beings capable of crushing entire ships with their minds. For that reason alone I think it’s safe to say that force users can more than make up
      for technological inferiority.

      Point goes to Star wars.

      Time period:

      We should choose the most military experienced and explosive time for either side. With that the
      nights of the old republic time line gives thousands of force users and still a substantial army for multiple factions. And let’s face it technology doesn’t
      seem to have change at all from any of the star wars tales whether they take place thousands of years before Vader or from Vader as a child to dead.

      Star trek will
      naturally take place during the dominion war when the alpha quadrant has joined together and voyager has met species 8472.

      Having an almost neck and neck battle between the two universes I personally believe that force
      users will make a huge difference in battle. One Jedi/Sith is capable of bringing down an entire vessel without ever setting foot on it. Not to mention
      their omnipresent detection abilities making them increasingly difficult to counter with proper strategy.

      Also I too agree,
      we have no lives.

    • joe

      lol man awesome and very well thought out argument. I can’t agree more. star wars has nothing on star trek other then a bunch of stupid seven year olds.

  • Jon Lefave

    Sci-fi vs. Space Opera.

    I grew up loving Star Wars, but I know how much more important Star Trek was to mankind’s imagination and innovation.

  • Overdrive9

    Okay so Star Trek would win for this reason, Star Wars Storm Troopers and Star Wars Ship weapon CAN’T AIM! the damn lasers go in every different direction! You want to compare ships No Star wars ship at all has the armament of the Scimitar and just to show you Star Wars fans exactly what I mean here you go.

    The Scimitar’s cloaking technology was, in the words of Geordi La Forge, “perfect.” It emitted no tachyons and left no residual anti-protons, the two ways that a cloaked ship could be tracked and located. Thus, when cloaked, theScimitar was virtually impossible to find. Only a chance hit by an opposing ship’s weapons or by targeting where theScimitar’s shots came from could reveal its location, temporarily disrupting the cloak. The Scimitar could even deploy its weapons and deflector shields and travel at high warp speeds while cloaked, actions which, with less-advanced cloaking technology, necessitated de-cloaking or reduced the effectiveness of cloaking. Its maximum warp factor when cloaked was more than that of Starfleet’s Sovereign-class starship.

    Having been designed for war, the Scimitar had 52 disruptor banks and 27 photon torpedo bays; it was thus ready for nearly any battle, carrying roughly five times the armament of any other single ship. The powerful thalaron radiation weapon with which it was also equipped was capable of stripping the life off a planet in a matter of seconds,

    The Scimitar had primary and secondary shields. This allowed for twice the protection, giving it a backup shield.

    • pfannk

      lol very true storm troopers can not aim at all

  • http://www.facebook.com/jake.verikson.1 Jake Verikson

    stare wars because the force is OP

    • joe

      once the borg assimilate the jedi they will be able to add their power to their own making them even more legit.
      resistance is futile

  • preymantis

    People claim that a Q could help you trek-loving queers win this battle but with multiple force users they can use a jedi-mind trick on a single Q and he or she can kill another Q.

  • Archer4ST

    Agreed with 14yrol menace. Imagine with just the Wells class Fed starship seen in ‘Relativity’. All the captain of her would say is, “Take us back to prevent the creation of the Empire”, and poof. No more Empire. Go back further, poof, no galaxy far, far away. Only Star Trek! LLAP my hopeless Star Wars fans! (Bacteria which gives you magic? Check out Charlie X, The Caretaker, and Q! Game over.)

  • trent

    star wars are more fighting then star trek

  • Girly nerd

    I think star wars will win because they have the force, laser guns, lightsabors, and plus they had to invent new technology to just make the movie. That and The force beats cloaks and all that! And also because STARWARS IS JUST THAT AWESOME BECAUSE CHUCK NORRIS IS THE FORCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • CJ_THE_BEAST

    Yoda would kill all of those Star Trek fags

  • Voice OF reasoN

    Really there is no defining matter. Star Wars is defined at the begging of all of it’s movies as, “A LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR FAR AWAY.” Lucas did this so that there would truly be no fighting whether or not something can be compared to it. the far far away wasn’t meant to say that we can’t do something like that, but to avoid conflict that there is now. Star Wars is a great series and will always be a staple in Sci-Fi history. As Star Trek is it’s own entity and will always have the future in mind for what Earth can expect. There really is no comparing the two to each other hence why I’m not voting. (They are two separate Sci-Fi’s and will always be separated by a long time meaning tens of years to tens of millions of years.)
    Oh and that’s why I love Firefly. There’s no fighting about if it’s better than the others because it out rules them all.

Star Trek

For over 40 years, Star Trek has been a fixture in Science Fiction television and film. “Star Trek, The Original Series” first aired in September of 1969, featuring the now legendary and unforgettable, William Shatner, as Captain Kirk. Although the ratings struggled and the Original series only lasted three years, Star Trek became a instant cult classic. Since the original series, there have been numerous films and five additional television series’. One of the most widely successful of which was “Star Trek , The Final Frontier”, with Patrick Stewart playing Jean-Luc Picard, captain of the Enterprise.

Star Trek story-lines are based around space exploration and the goal to “to boldly go where no man has gone before”. Each television series depicts the adventures of crews from different star ships. Along the way, conflict is brought about by clashes with alien life forms and the inherit dangers of space exploration.

Some of the memorable Star Trek characters include: Captain Kirk, Captain Picard, Spock, Data , Geordi La Forge, Worf (to name a few).

While Star Trek has always had an overall serious feel, there was always a humorous undertone. Who could forget the episode from Next Generation when Data is learning to understand humor and tries his hand at stand up?

Star Wars

If you were to ask a person what movie comes to mind when you say the word “Sci-Fi”, “Star Wars” would likely be the answer. In a lot of ways, the Star Wars series defined what Sci-Fi is today.

The first Star Wars movie, “Star Wars Episode IV, A New Hope” was released in 1977. Since the release of A New Hope, the series has become a pop culture phenomenon. Every type of merchandise that can be imagined has been created base on the Star Wars films. From video games to drinking cups, there are very few things that don’t offer a Star Wars themed option. Even Motorola jumped on the star wars bandwagon releasing an R2D2 version of their successful Droid Phone in 2010.

The Star Wars films have earned over 4 billion dollars worldwide, making it one of the highest grossing film series in history. The plot of Star Wars is based around the life of Luke and Anakin Skywalker (Darth Vader). To sum it up… with an in depth, well thought out storyline derived from a meticulous attention to detail, the films overall plot is a story depicting an epic battle between good and evil. Luke, a Jedi is the protagonist for “Good” while Darth Vader, a high ranking general of the “the Dark Side” is the protagonist for evil. The two characters meet in the end of an epic journey to make for one of the most memorable moments in film history.

The execution of the film and the special effects in each film have always been ahead of their time. George Lucas and his production company, Lucasfilm was a pioneer in CGI. Lucas pulled out all the stops when it came to special effects and editing techniques in the the Star Wars films. They are known as some of the most groundbreaking films in CGI.

While Star Wars was an instant classic in the theatres as is today a cultural phenomenon, can the longevity and originality of Star Trek hold up in contrast?

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